[ACCEPTED] [MRP] Overhauling Afghan (AFG to RU)

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  1. Shrimp

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    Foreword: Before I begin typing, allow me to state that the following items were supposed to be included in my big 2000th post thread, and my wiener will hurt for a week following.

    Russian Armed Forces

    This is the crux of my post, and by far the most important and time consuming thing on here. I'd like to discuss a few things that I had already ran over with Shephard and Barnet, including the pros and cons of converting Afghan into RU, the overall structure of the server, classes, comparative policing and laws, and relevant roleplay.

    I'd like to state that the main purpose of a conversion is to give a similar 'official' style appeal to both countries. US, as the basis for most modernized national armed forces, already has this concept in the bag. Afghan, obviously, does not, will not, and can only do so by not being Afghan. It is in part responsible for the poor reputation Afghan has, and the type of people it attracts from the first connection to the server.

    Benefits of replacing Afghan with Russia-
    • As previously stated, it is a formal military with pre-established regulations and divisions similar to that of US, as well as dedicated special forces units to draw comparisons with.
    • Easily translated to US style subfactions.
    • Already has very Western ranks similar to that of the current server set up.
    • Will not be restricted to 'terrorist' weaponry, which is primarily AK based rifles.
    • Would have a much more characteristic tone than a bunch of children screaming 'Allahu Ackbar xD'
    • Much more appealing models.
    • Conversion will be really, really easy. (See: Diagram)
    • Military Law will be easily translatable between US and RU.
    • Will add a nice refreshing vibe to the server and draw in more players.
    Cons to having RU instead of Afghan-
    • Garnet likes having Afghan for whatever reason.
    • Lore doesn't matter, Fuck you.

    Core Faction Setup and US comparison
    Shitty MS Paint Diagram:
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    Pretty simple and straight forward, wont add a DF equiv unless Garnet wants/asks for one.

    Rank Structure

    RU Ground Forces - 2nd Guards Army Division
    RU Airborne Troops - 7th Guards Air Assault (Mountain) Division

    GF MOS: 2GA SSH Alexei Volkov
    AT MOS: 7GD SGT Aleks Yndovik

    E-1: Private / PVT
    E-2: Private First Class / PFC
    E-3: Junior Sergeant / JSG
    E-4: Sergeant / SGT
    E-5: Senior Sergeant / SNS
    E-6: Starshina / SSH
    E-7: Podpraporshchik / POS
    E-8: Praporshchik / PPS
    E-9: Starshy Praporshchik / SSP
    Acting Officer / Warrant Officer: Junior Lieutenant / JLT
    O-1: Lieutenant / LT
    O-2: Senior Lieutenant / SLT
    O-3: Captain / CPT
    O-4: Major / MAJ
    O-5: Lieutenant Colonel / LTC
    O-6: Colonel / COL
    O-7: Major General / MJG
    O-8: Lieutenant General / LTG
    O-9: Colonel General / CLG
    O-10: Army General / GEN
    O-11: Marshall of The Federation

    RU Naval Infantry - 414th Marine Battalion
    MOS: 414B SMM Demitri Bintz
    E-1: Seaman / SN
    E-2: Leading Seaman / LSN
    E-3: Starshina Second Class / SS2
    E-4: Starshina First Class / SS1
    E-5: Chief Starshina / CSS
    E-6: Chief of The Ship / COS
    E-7: Michman / MM
    E-8: Senior Michman / SMM
    E-9: Midshipman / MSM
    Acting Officer / Warrant Officer: Junior Lieutenant / JLT
    O-1: Lieutenant / LT
    O-2: Senior Lieutenant / SLT
    O-3: Captain Lieutenant / CLT
    O-4: Captain 3rd Rank / CA3
    O-5: Captain 2nd Rank / CA2
    O-6: Captain 1st Rank / CA1
    O-7: Counter Admiral / CADM
    O-8: Vice Admiral / VADM
    O-9: Admiral / ADM
    O-10: Fleet Admiral / FADM

    GRU & SSO - The Spetznaz
    GRU MOS: GRU SSH Aleksandr
    SSO MOS: SSO LT Gorbichekv
    E-4: Sergeant / SGT
    E-5: Senior Sergeant / SNS
    E-6: Starshina / SSH
    E-7: Podpraporshchik / POS
    E-8: Praporshchik / PPS
    E-9: Starshy Praporshchik / SSP
    Acting Officer / Warrant Officer: Junior Lieutenant / JLT
    O-1: Lieutenant / LT
    O-2: Senior Lieutenant / SLT
    O-3: Captain / CPT
    O-4: Major / MAJ
    O-5: Lieutenant Colonel / LTC
    O-6: Colonel / COL


    Russian Military Police - Voennaya politsiya
    MOS: VMP TSG Cheeki Breeki
    E-1: Private / PVT
    E-2: Junior Sergeant / JSG
    E-3: Sergeant / SGT
    E-4: Technical Sergeant / TSG
    E-5: Zone Sergeant / ZSG
    E-6: Senior Sergeant / SNS
    WO: Junior Lieutenant / JLT
    O-1: Lieutenant / LT
    O-2: Senior Lieutenant / SLT
    O-3: Captain / CPT


    Classes and Weaponry

    Fortunately, wikis give pretty good detail about the various small arms these specific groups carried into battle. I'll work on models in the future, as that will be the most time consuming part of the implementation, and I don't want to waste my time without the go-ahead from Garnet. Once the amount of models I have to work with is ironed out, I'll adjust the classes below accordingly. The current ones are merely prospective. Milkdud is offering his prospective time to do minor texture changes to weapons to add another level of uniqueness to variants between classes, as well as modernize soviet-era firearms.

    NOTE: Shortly after I started this section gmod stopped working and I couldn't grab weapon names/strings. Sorry, will update l8r.

    2GA
    Universal Secondary: Makarov PM / khr_makarov

    Ground Forces : Infantry
    Primary: AK-74M, modified to look less retro. Same base stats as Army M4.

    Ground Forces : Ratnik
    Primary: AK-15, modified to be a slightly heavier rifle than the standard AK. Tan hardware.

    Ground Forces : Sapper
    Primary: TOZ-194, fully modifiable, plastic hardware.

    Ground Forces : SMG
    Primary: AKS-74u, black hardware, foregrip.

    Ground Forces : Sharpshooter
    Primary: SKS-D, Short dot, suppressor, DMR stats.

    Ground Forces : Assault
    Primary: RPK-74m with plastic hardware.

    Ground Forces : Field Medic
    Primary: Medkit

    Ground Forces : Munitions
    Primary: Frag Grenade

    Ground Forces : Drill Instructor
    Primary: Standard AK-103.

    Ground Forces : Commander
    Primary: AK-103.

    7GD
    Universal Secondary: MP-443 Grach / khr_mp443

    Airborne Trooper : Vanguard
    Primary: A-545, AEK Variant.

    Airborne Trooper : Scout
    Primary: SKS, modernized, Kobra and folded bayonet.

    Airborne Trooper : Heavy
    Primary: PKP Pecheneg. Modified PKM.

    Airborne Trooper : Commander
    Primary: A-545.

    414B
    Universal Secondary: CZ-52 / khr_cz52

    Naval Infantry : Rifleman
    Primary: AK-102

    Naval Infantry : Osada
    Primary: OTs-14 Groza. A modified L82.

    Naval Infantry : Field Medic
    Primary: Medkit

    Naval Infantry : Sniper
    Primary: VSK-94, Suppressor, NXS. Old SV-98 Stats.

    Naval Infantry : Drill Instructor
    Primary: AK-102

    Naval Infantry : Commander
    Primary: OTs-14

    SSO
    Universal Secondary: CZ-75B / khr_cz75

    SSO : Operative
    Primary: SR-2 Veresk

    SSO : Commando
    Primary: CZ 858, plastic hardware, suppressed.

    SSO : Artillery
    Primary: Mortar :)

    SSO : Advisory
    Primary: CZ 858 Custom.

    GRU
    Universal Secondary: SR-1m / khr_sr1m

    Spetsnaz GRU : Infiltrator
    Primary: AS-VAL

    Spetsnaz GRU : Seeker
    Primary: SR-3

    Spetsnaz GRU : Marksman
    Primary: Sako TRG, modified SV-98 with a suppressor.

    Spetsnaz GRU : Captain
    Primary: AS-VAL

    Coming soon: Policing Overhaul, SOC Solutions, IC/OOC separations, and more!
     
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    Fucking M O I S T m8ey
    @n1njan30 Will you be the LTGen of 45th again?
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    Because Why have Towelheads when you could have some cheeki breeki lad mans?
     
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    Saw Russia, instant +1.

    You just saved yourself hundreds of hours of coding and brainstorming by switching.
     
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    +1
    I love this idea so fucking much.
     
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    Fat +1, Was wondering if you came up with any player models for these factions?
    Edit: Any ideas on what bomber would turn into for the donator class?
     
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    +1, good shit shimp
     
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    Wouldn’t the same problems that AFG had reoccur in RU?
    I feel it would be a waste of time of garnet did all this work converting then he same issues happened again.
     
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